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No lemon - old school. My grandmother who lived until 99 drank hot water. My mother drank hot water. I drink hot water. Good for digestion. (Lemon can upset stomach). I would share the hot water recipe but it's confidential.

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I have a lot of Korean and Japanese friends that do it and have gotten me into it as well. Feels like a good body cleanser.

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My mom used to do this when I was a kid. I always thought of it as a 70s thing. But maybe it is eternal!

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just straight hot water? Do you boil it or microwave it?

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LOL

I won't pry, mordy.

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Chocolate milk is what I put in my coffee, low fat is preferred but but whichever is priced best (and has the farthest out 'use by' date) is what I go with. The aroma in that building must have been like an aromatherapy treat!

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Shire, chocolate milk in coffee is a very good idea! As is any dairy product that has not passed its expiration date. You've got it all figured out!

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Surely that’s a mocca - coffee made with milk and chocolate drink powder and/or cocoa? 🐰

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That's right akaKevin!

BTW the coconut people were trying to persuade me that a mocha made with coconut milk is the very best mocha!

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Cobblers. I drink black loose leaf tea and black ground coffee, made with hot water. I use cows milk on my Kellogg’s cornflakes every morning and I use cows milk to make an afternoon mug of cocoa, both sugar free. 🐰akaKevin.

P.S. I have yet to taste a decent alternative to cow’s milk!

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" I hate it when my pets eat each other." 🤣🤣🤣 Could I love this newsletter any more? NO! I giggled all the way through this one. Soooo good! 👏👏👏

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Haha so glad to hear it Debra.

I liked Ms. Dallman's response even better. What a good sport!!

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i adore these farmers!! "When I start milking at 3:30 in the morning, I need the caffeine," said Mr. Davenport. "I use Folgers Instant. We have 180-degree water that we wash up with, so I use the hot water to make a little instant, put a little sugar in, and right now I'm using a cow called 'Peacock,' —a 5% butterfat Holstein—and I squirt the milk right in. It foams up really well. I can make a homemade latte just like that!" and his pic reminded me of a riotously funny documentary film from back in the 80's (made in Vermont by Vermonter of course!) about a genuine and uninhibited farmer anme of Fred Tuttle you need to search it out and it make take a few extra pots of caffeine: "Man with a Plan"

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Mr. Davenport was the star of the show for sure, AK!

And I just looked up Fred Tuttle's obit—I'd never heard of him prior.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/us/fred-tuttle-84-farmer-and-celebrity-dies.html

What a life!

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great obit thanks i'd never read it!!

"Mr. Tuttle said the campaign was the most exciting time of his life since he marched into Paris as a soldier in World War II. His campaign slogan was, ''Why Not?'' and his bumper stickers read, ''Spread Fred.'' The issues he addressed included the highly regrettable end of girlie shows at the local fair." that same Tunbridge Fair is featured along with a few other notorious ones in a marvelous coffee table book of black and white photos from 1972-1975 by Susan Meiselas "Carnival Strippers" the interviews are amazing

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i gotta get the film im sure its on dvd er sumthin you should too its a valued snapshot

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Hi AK! I looked for the film after you mentioned it and it’s free on Youtube under “Man with a Plan.” Just started watching it and it’s fascinating and humorous. Thanks for the recommendation!

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omg i will watch soon!!

thanks

maybe Anne will give me a kick-back 🤣😇

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Haha. Great ending. Instant coffee with milk. A crazy way to drink coffee. My dad and step ma have been instant devotees for 60 years. When the kids were little and they’d stay with us I had to have instant coffee for them. Needless to say one container lasted years.

Mr Hernandez did not disclose the real reason why cafes tend to opt of coconut milk. It doesn’t froth well. Coconut milk is my go to and the times I’ve had a decaf latte the baristas have told me this little known fact. Hubby made me one at home and it was true. No frothage.

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I am still curious to try some of the "new" instants, CK. I did have a jar of instant Bustelo in my pantry once and as you noted, it lasted for YEARS. It came in handy when I made my coffee too weak and needed to reinforce it a bit.

Interesting about coconut milk not frothing! Maybe that's why they were pushing the cococano and the iced latte rather than your standard cappuccino.

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The sales guys know what to push. Anyone annoyingly salesy or all nice and helpful?

Looking forward to hearing about the Yemen tea. ☕️

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Everyone was fun and sweet CK!

I've been googling instructions for the tea. I may need to buy some sort of round thing with holes in it...

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Haha. A tea strainer?

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When you can order a cococano with anaerobic beans at Dunkin’ you’ll know the gillenials have taken over.

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LOL

"Problem is inside me...problem is inside me...."

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I am old enough to remember when there was one milk alternative on the market -- and it tasted like liquid cardboard. But as a very lactose intolerant person, it was heaven.

And now there is oat milk, which is amazeballs. (I won't comment on lattes made with coconut milk. Nope, not going there!)

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As far as plant-based milk goes, oat milk is truly tops, I agree Mr. Jensen. Probably because its got tons of sugar and fat. That's MY kind of plant milk!

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IT DOES NOT HAVE TONS OF SUGAR AND FAT!!!

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! IT'S TOTALLY HEALTHY AND I CAN DRINK IT WITHOUT GUILT!!!

I'M BETTING YOUR NEXT ISSUE WILL BE DEVOTED TO KICKING PUPPIES AND KITTENS, WON'T IT!!!

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Just kidding about the sugar and fat, Mr. Jensen. Oat milk is calorie-free and full of antioxidants!

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I am choosing to believe this...

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Now I want to know! What’s the deal with coconut lattes?

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I tried the iced version at the booth, Rob. It was pretty good. Not as a substitute for the real thing, but as a sort of pleasant general beverage experience...

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The one time I had a coconut milk latte -- which I was quite excited to try -- it had a very strange aftertaste and made for a watery latte. Not at all creamy, like oat milk.

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Ah, I thought you have had a horrifying coconut milk latte anecdote. Glad it's just a creaminess issue!

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Well, it felt very traumatic at the time! 😆😆😆

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I made it into Cafe Anne! I believe this means I am officialy Cafe-mous now!

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You are ALWAYS in CAFÉ ANNE Mr. Jensen!!

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Yeah, like that bad smell that you just can't get rid of. I GET YOUR SUBTEXT!

Actually, no, you're way too nice for snarky subtext. That's my purview...

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Thanks for the late buzz to my day! You'll be interested to know that there's a cafe in Nelson, BC, that sells dandelion lattes. The town is populated by hairy-armpitted-tree-planting-downward-dog-dog-walkers who love hyperlocal, organic everything. It tasted like chicken broth somehow? It was a one and done but I was glad for the experience. Thanks for the great read. The Peacock latte was my fave. Of all the coffees I've nursed around the world, the cafe con leches along the Camino Frances in Spain were consistently the best engine starters. What's the best cup that you've had abroad?

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Hi Jules!

Dandelion lattes. Of course! Classic "virtue coffee."

Alas I am not well traveled so I have zero coffee abroad experience. But if I ever get to Camino Frances, I'll know what to do!

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Cool. And I'll keep following you around New York!

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Omg you share my love for ultra niche software haha I am obsessed with staff management software for airports and airlines 🛫

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Natalia! You just sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole.

"Whether at the check-in counter, in baggage handling or refueling an aircraft, our Aviation Resource Management Software lets you create workforce and shift schedules quickly..."

"Manage your properties, parcels, leases, concessions, maintenance, invoicing and billing all in a single solution..."

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

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Coconut milk was the first non-dairy milk! Woah! I'm so happy I was drinking coffee while reading this post, Anne. Otherwise, I would have had to make more!

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You can just imagine how much I drank writing it Jillian!

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The Hernandez sounds amazing! I'm sad that I just left India a few days ago, would have tried to make one there

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I tried it at the show, Mr. Rigsby and it WAS pretty good!

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Another terrific read. (I remember my first taste of cow’s milk direct from the udder. An acquired taste. But would work well with instant coffee!!) Such a shame I can no longer tolerate caffeine. Thank goodness decaf coffee tastes so good these days. 🤗🤗

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I don't think I've ever had raw milk, Beth. There was a trend maybe in the early 2000s where underground raw milk delivery was the thing to do, but I missed that boat.

Very sorry to hear your caffeine days are over. I can't imagine—I sometimes feel coffee is what underlies my entire personality. Glad you found a good decaf though. Consolation prize!

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I lived on farms from about the age of 13 and learned to milk a cow, so we had ‘raw milk’ every day. We had a Friesian house cow and the milk tasted just like the stuff you buy in a shop. That first taste many years prior, squirted direct from a teat into my mouth was hot and salty!! from a jersey cow. It’s amazing how different breeds on different pasture can taste so different. It’s really weird how government legislation frowned on fresh milk, but I gather there are health issues with unpasteurised milk being widely distributed. We never had any problems drinking our fresh milk every day but it went straight from the cow to the fridge then into our tummies. Was such a simple existence.

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So interesting to hear that milk tastes different depending on the breed, Beth. Is it the same with beef?

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Cows that are fed on saltbush in Australia’s desert regions have noticeably different flavoured meat. And yes, now that I think about it, grain fed beef vs pasture fed beef are also sold for their distinctly different meat. A very cool mental jump on your part!

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The alt-milk arms race heats up! Having the lead when the cow situation comes to a head will be lucrative. Or second place, really. You can see the tipping point from here.

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Just did a quick search, DD. Potato milk, it seems, is coming in hot!

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Great report! Thank you! I don't drink coffee or tea - I drink hot water (boring!).

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mordy! Just plain hot water? Do you at least put a little lemon in it?

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I drink a cup of hot water first thing in the morning to give my tummy a gentle wakeup call. Next, coffee as a latte, preferably made by someone other than me, usually with almond milk but sometimes with hemp or coconut milk. Sometimes if I can’t sleep at night I’ll have a cup of hot water. It’s soothing.

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What an interesting show you got to see! How fun! Coffee is the elixir of the Gods!

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Truly! Thank God for coffee!

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Another awesome issue, Anne! I am embarrassed to admit that I can only drink decaf ever since having some crazy heart palpitations several years ago when drinking the leaded variety. Unleaded isn’t the same but Peet’s dark roast decaf “Major Dickason’s Blend” (must find out who he is) is pretty tasty. In my humble opinion, only half and half is suitable for a cup o’ Joe, so I loved your comments to Mr. H. My parents used to give our dog Bitsy her own saucer of coffee with cream every morning when I was a child and she had no visible side effects. Lucky dog!

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Oh Jill I am very sorry you can only drink decaf. But glad you found a decaf roast you love and remain a proud member of Team Half-n-Half!

Everyone says caffeine is killer for dogs, but my Minnie often sneaks the dregs at the bottom of my cup and seems all the better for it!

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Half & half all the way. I live in the middle of nowhere - and it's glorious - and have my Peet's delivered. Addicted to the small batch dark roasts. But mine's fully caffeinated.

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I think I might like living in the middle of nowhere these days. In California by any chance? Happy to meet another Peet’s fan! I miss the “real” coffee, but at least Peet’s makes a great facsimile.

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Arkansas...The Natural State. I'm a Cali native and escaped 18 years ago. Love my tiny town. If you've ever been to Sonora, CA the town I live in here is a lot like it. Two huge lakes, three rivers in the Ozarks. Mountain Home is a jewel.

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I have been thinking about escaping for a while. My mother’s family is from Texarkana, so I am familiar with that area. Glad you found your true home!

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